Today's Chelsea FC against Arsenal's "The Invincibles"

Comparing teams across player generations is always a somewhat futile exercise, because they will obviously never play against each other to settle the question which team was better. Today a news paper article comparing appeared in my Twitter timeline comparing Chelsea FC to Arsenal's team in the 2003/2004 season, often called "The Invincibles".


Using a player by player comparison, the newspaper concluded that Arsenal's team at that time was marginally better than today's Chelsea. Just for fun, and knowing that this may raise many critics, we will repeat this comparison using Goalimpact.

Chelsea FC 2014

PlayerGoalimpactPeak GIAgeLast National TeamNo. GamesNo. Minutes
Ramires123.0127.627.7Brasilien35628160
Willian139.2140.126.3Brasilien29921598
Branislav Ivanović121.7136.130.8Serbien38934226
Filipe Luís124.4131.629.3Brasilien31927549
André Schürrle124.8129.224.1Deutschland27919896
Cesc Fàbregas194.6198.927.6Spanien53440327
Petr Čech186.8187.432.5Tschechien64760121
Eden Hazard135.6140.523.9Belgien33524617
Azpilicueta123.1124.825.3Spanien30226299
John Terry164.6199.534.0England68561485
Oscar124.9132.323.3Brasilien22515845
Average142.1149.827.7
Bench
Gary Cahill111.4118.128.9England37233905
Diego Costa114.7115.126.2Spanien25018922
Nemanja Matić121.0121.926.3Serbien16513182
John Mikel108.4112.827.6Nigeria36226165
Average113.9117.027.3
15 Player Average
Average134.5141.127.6

Chelsea has an excellent team on top European level. They will be a tough opponent for the other great teams such as Real Madrid, Barca and Bayern München.

Arsenal FC 2004 ("The Invincibles")

PlayerGoalimpactPeak GIAgeLast National TeamNo. GamesNo. Minutes
Gilberto Silva118.7123.827.8Brasilien1179704
Patrick Vieira149.1155.128.0Frankreich43738684
Jens Lehmann158.4159.134.7Deutschland55251449
Ashley Cole124.8131.423.5England18116173
Sol Campbell141.0148.729.8England44840084
Lauren133.1137.327.4Kamerun26923666
Thierry Henry143.1145.626.8Frankreich43031576
Nwankwo Kanu120.3125.927.9Nigeria31018040
Robert Pirés143.4156.930.7Frankreich47438687
Sylvain Wiltord129.1138.230.2Frankreich42530288
Dennis Bergkamp158.2203.735.2Niederlande63349708
Average138.1147.829.3
Bench
Freddie Ljungberg114.3117.927.3Schweden24618459
Kolo Touré117.3124.823.3Elfenbeinküste1017109
Reyes105.1124.320.8Spanien1107895
Edu112.2112.626.2Brasilien1287845
Average112.2119.924.4
15 Player Average
Average131.2140.428.0

According to Goalimpact, the last Arsenal team to win the Premier League was slightly weaker than today's Chelsea. These numbers are taken at the end of the season, so there are some footnotes. Dennis Bergkamp, at his peak, was the best player of all mentioned in this article. Even better than Cesc. However, Berkamp was aging rapidly during the season and therefore his Goalimpact at the beginning of the season, 167, was significantly higher than at the end.

Although Arsenal 2004 maybe wasn't better than the 2014 Chelsea, it was facing far less competition back then. The second team in the 2004 season was again Chelsea. And they had only a Goalimpact of 114. That is helping in becoming "invincible".


Arsenal FC - Bayern München: Rated Line-ups

The best German team visits the second best German team in this match. Many great Germans will be on the pitch, two of them for Arsenal. Özil and Mertesacker stick out in Arsenal's team. Bayern even left two world-class player on the bench. Müller and Schweinsteiger may enter later. We see Bayern as favorite even in the German part of London.

Arsenal FC

PlayerGoalimpactPeak GIAgeLast National TeamNo. GamesNo. Minutes
Wojciech Szczesny111.4111.423.8Polen16715435
Bacary Sagna133.5145.931.0Frankreich40035536
Per Mertesacker155.5160.629.3Deutschland45541913
Laurent Koscielny122.7127.228.4Frankreich22519968
Kieran Gibbs125.0129.624.3England [U21]15211955
Jack Wilshere112.2127.222.1England15010851
Mesut Özil161.6163.625.3Deutschland38728646
Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain111.6139.020.5England1186668
Santi Cazorla124.8129.829.2Spanien41430137
Mathieu Flamini113.4118.829.9Frankreich32122104
Yaya Sanogo99.1122.221.0Frankreich [U21]332066
Bench
Lukasz Fabianski110.9110.928.8Polen837615
Nacho Monreal114.7118.927.9Spanien23619934
Carl Jenkinson104.3119.922.0England [U21]645048
Tomáš Rosický101.4128.833.3Tschechien46735613
Serge Gnabry84.8132.018.6Deutschland [U19]281910
Lukas Podolski108.6113.328.7Deutschland40430311
Olivier Giroud116.6119.527.3Frankreich22618268


Bayern München

PlayerGoalimpactPeak GIAgeLast National TeamNo. GamesNo. Minutes
Manuel Neuer164.9164.927.8Deutschland38235758
Dante135.1142.830.3Brasilien29226070
Jérôme Boateng144.0145.625.4Deutschland31825562
Philipp Lahm189.3196.530.3Deutschland55549859
David Alaba127.3145.821.6Österreich22418236
Thiago131.4142.822.8Spanien [U21]14710035
Javi Martínez117.5119.125.4Spanien31526052
Mario Götze135.8153.921.7Deutschland16311227
Toni Kroos137.4142.724.1Deutschland27819614
Mario Mandžukic127.2130.927.7Kroatien24619339
Arjen Robben154.4160.130.0Niederlande46234025
Bench
Tom Starke95.795.732.926524586
Daniel Van Buyten97.3147.136.0Belgien45339524
Rafinha128.7133.228.4Brasilien Olymp.32127073
Diego Contento116.8123.623.81139031
Bastian Schweinsteiger180.4185.629.5Deutschland54742033
Claudio Pizarro103.9147.735.3Peru58743401
Thomas Müller160.2164.724.4Deutschland30323865


Arsenal FC vs. Borussia Dortmund: Lineup & Stats


Arsenal FC

PlayerGoalimpactAgeLast National TeamNo. GamesNo. Minutes
Wojciech Szczesny119.723.5Polen14413296
Bacary Sagna138.230.6Frankreich37733509
Per Mertesacker149.029.0Deutschland43139727
Laurent Koscielny125.128.1Frankreich20017697
Kieran Gibbs128.324.0England [U21]13010170
Tomas Rosicky129.433.0Tschechien45034549
Mikel Arteta121.531.535529946
Jack Wilshere122.321.7England1249091
Mesut Özil167.125.0Deutschland36226733
Aaron Ramsey120.422.8Wales21313794
Olivier Giroud115.827.0Frankreich20116267
Bench
Lukasz Fabianski124.428.5Polen807336
Thomas Vermaelen130.127.9Belgien30726309
Nacho Monreal114.027.6Spanien22019063
Carl Jenkinson112.621.6Finnland [U21]524112
Santi Cazorla128.828.8Spanien39328644
Serge Gnabry106.318.2151105
Nicklas Bendtner130.225.7Dänemark28017816


Borussia Dortmund

PlayerGoalimpactAgeLast National TeamNo. GamesNo. Minutes
Roman Weidenfeller132.433.237934992
Neven Subotic148.524.8Serbien27725557
Mats Hummels147.224.8Deutschland27023667
Marcel Schmelzer143.925.7Deutschland23120018
Sven Bender125.124.4Deutschland23416288
Henrikh Mkhitaryan128.624.7Armenien17014385
Jakub Blaszczykowski131.127.8Polen25618092
Nuri Sahin130.925.1Türkei25218840
Kevin Großkreutz130.025.2Deutschland [U21]27421052
Robert Lewandowski144.725.1Polen24318993
Marco Reus119.124.3Deutschland22917695
Bench
Mitchell Langerak120.425.1524688
Sokratis Papastathopoulos105.725.3Griechenland19916128
Erik Durm99.621.4Deutschland [U21]937134
Jonas Hofmann107.021.2Deutschland [U21]1289699
Oliver Kirch97.931.121216517
Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang110.024.3Gabun19714416
Julian Schieber117.024.6Deutschland [U21]1618665


Olympique Marseille vs. Arsenal FC: Lineups and Stats


Olympique Marseille

PlayerGoalimpactAgeTeamNo. GamesNo. Minutes
Steve Mandanda124.428.4Frankreich29927772
Nicolas N'Koulou100.423.4Kamerun18616673
Lucas Mendes103.723.2715939
Jeremy Morel102.429.422920517
Rod Fanni99.831.7Frankreich32427404
Dimitri Payet105.326.4Frankreich26118052
Alaixys Romao90.029.6Togo19417652
Gianelli Imbula104.021.0655025
Matthieu Valbuena119.428.9Frankreich27517943
Andre-Pierre Gignac109.527.7Frankreich25917848
Andre Ayew110.823.7Ghana21416004
Bench
Brice Samba-1.0-1.0-1-1
Benjamin Mendy103.819.1Frankreich [U19]746683
Benoit Cheyrou121.132.345836592
Mario Lemina93.220.0Frankreich [U20]221343
Florian Thauvin96.820.6Frankreich [U20]573524
Jordan Ayew111.522.0Ghana1246201
Saber Khelifa102.326.9Tunesien1048513


Arsenal FC

PlayerGoalimpactAgeTeamNo. GamesNo. Minutes
Wojciech Szczesny119.823.4Polen13812738
Bacary Sagna140.830.5Frankreich37032948
Per Mertesacker150.628.9Deutschland42338964
Laurent Koscielny124.728.0Frankreich19116860
Kieran Gibbs128.523.9England [U21]1249612
Jack Wilshere121.721.7England1178546
Mesut Özil171.324.9Deutschland35626206
Aaron Ramsey122.122.7Wales20613143
Mathieu Flamini128.629.5Frankreich29820544
Olivier Giroud114.826.9Frankreich19415619
Theo Walcott144.224.5England31219309
Bench
Lukasz Fabianski126.628.4Polen797212
Thomas Vermaelen133.427.8Belgien30426079
Nacho Monreal114.427.5Spanien21318786
Carl Jenkinson112.621.6Finnland [U21]483799
Isaac Hayden98.618.48688
Ryo Miyaichi108.320.7362184
Chuba Akpom105.117.9England [U19]151319


The Market Value of Johan Djourou - Transfer Report

Reportedly, the Hamburger SV wants to buy Arsenal's Johan Djourou. This caused me to compare his Goalimpact with the market value according to transfermarkt.de, to get an idea if it would be a good deal. Here is the development of the Goalimpact over time.



And this compares to the followong market value development.


The two curves are strikingly similar. The Goalimpact rises until February 2007 where it reaches a plateau at 124. The market value also shows an increase until April 2004 when a plateau starts. In October 2007 the Goalimpact starts dropping until it reaches a bottom in March 2008. The market value drops, too. Putting the bottom at July 2008.

The Goalimpact rises again until it reaches another plateau from March 2009 until October 2010. We see again the same pattern in the market value where the plateau lasts from February 2009 until Februrary 2011. Both start raising thereafter again. Goalimpact peaks in February 2011 and drops slightly January 2012. The market value peaks August 2011 and drops slightly February 2012.

Until then, the two values move in parallel to an amazing extend. If you check the date, you will see that the Goalimpact usually reacts about three month earlier.

However, in 2012 the two curve move differently. The market value dropped significantly while the Goalimpact is more or less unchanged. If Hamburg SV could buy him at these low prices, that would be a good deal.

Spain's Perfect Eleven takes on the Confed Cup

Spain's national team is full with so many excellent football players that it is a pitty only eleven can play at a time. If the staring XI consists of the players with the highest Goalimpact, it would average above 150. Many of the opponents in this tournament don't even have a single player that good.

Player GoalImpact Age Team Games Minutes Position
Victor Valdes 184,6 31,4 FC Barcelona 477 44.369
GK
Iker Casillas 172,8 32,0 Real Madrid 692 64.244
GK
Pepe Reina
152,5 30,8 Liverpool FC 571 53.172
GK
Sergio Ramos 164,5 27,2 Real Madrid 426 37.948
DF
Pique 162,8 26,3 FC Barcelona 279 23.075
DF
Arbeloa 161,6 30,4 Real Madrid 287 24.521
DF
Raul Albiol 138,2 27,7 Real Madrid 301 25.267
DF
Azpilicueta 114,2 23,8 Chelsea FC 219 19.069
DF
Nacho Monreal 112,3 27,3 Arsenal FC 201 17.880
DF
Xavi 175,0 33,4 FC Barcelona 671 54.314
MF
Cesc Fabregas 173,2 26,1 FC Barcelona 432 33.105
MF
Iniesta 170,1 29,1 FC Barcelona 449 31.742
MF
Busquets 170,0 24,9 FC Barcelona 232 18.530
MF
David Silva 139,1 27,4 Manchester City 364 28.325
MF
Mata 133,9 25,1 Chelsea FC 299 22.491
MF
Jesus Navas 129,9 27,5 Sevilla FC 355 29.607
MF
Santi Cazorla 127,8 28,5 Arsenal FC 375 27.528
MF
Jordi Alba 126,6 24,2 FC Barcelona 192 14.371
MF
Javi Martinez 113,3 24,8 Bayern München 281 23.485
MF
Pedro 162,7 25,8 FC Barcelona 200 12.888
FW
David Villa 148,8 31,5 FC Barcelona 450 34.928
FW
Fernando Torres 133,7 29,2 Chelsea FC 506 39.235
FW
Soldado 120,2 28,0 Valencia CF 254 18.099
FW

Spain looks unbeatable in this tournament. Only Brazil may have a chance due to the home advantage.